Cigar Mike's Motorcycle Specialties

Closed February 2012

2012-01-26T17:27:00.002-07:00

Cigar Mike's will not be fabricating centerstands in February. I have personal matters to take care of which won't allow time to fabricate any stands. I will start a list for those that would like to have a stand and will fill the orders once I start back up in March.

Thanks,

Mike

TE630 Centerstand-$85+shipping

2011-11-21T00:21:00.005-07:00

I have worked out the problems with the TE630 and they are now available.

Mike

Parting Out 2005 XT225

2011-10-24T20:39:00.002-06:00

Here is the link to the parts that are for sale now. I have to add more to the list and will do so soon.

http://www.cigarmikes.com/2009/10/2005-xt225-for-sale-3305-miles.html

Send me an email if there is something you would like.

Thanks,

Mike

XR650L Design #2 $160.00 Plus Shipping

2011-03-24T00:23:00.000-06:00

I have designed another stand for the XR650L. I liked the XR400 design and the TE610 design because the feet are retracted higher. I also liked the way it looks.

NX650 Centerstand $160.00 + Shipping

2011-03-23T22:34:00.001-06:00

The NX650 centerstand is now available. It was designed to fit the US Model. It should fit other models but I may need you to check to verify fit on other models.

US Transalp Centerstand

2010-10-20T19:56:00.014-06:00

I have made some progress on the TA stand. It appears that I have come up with a couple of ways to increase the leverage on the pressdown leg. As soon as I test the second method I will decide which is better and make these stands available.

Very Nice TA!

The rear wheel is about 1 1/4" of the ground. I am working on a way to get more leverage to help get thee bike on the stand. I will provide up dates as they happen.

Cigar Mike

2010-09-20T20:35:00.005-06:00

Cigar Mike

Pictures

2010-01-23T00:25:00.000-07:00

To see full size pictures just click on pictures below.

XR650L Design #1 Center Stand-$160 Design #1

2010-01-23T00:24:00.002-07:00

Andrew's XR650L in Florida

Custom Heights available for modified suspensions. This is a bolt on unit that takes less then five minutes to install. This allows quick removal and installation so that XR650L can be configured differently depending your riding needs. Whether you are going on a long adventure ride or riding more technical terrain your XRL is set up the way you want it for that ride.

XR250R Center Stand-$160+shipping

2010-01-22T16:20:00.003-07:00

Much to my surprise the test stand fit perfectly. I never had a bike to fit it on but with the help of r00t4rd3d at ADVrider we made it happen on the first attempt. The stand is based on the XR650L stand and is very sturdy.

Pictures provided by r00t4rd3d

Cigar Mike

2006-2009 Husky TE610 Center Stand-$85.00 + Shipping

2010-01-21T16:42:00.026-07:00

This center stand is based on the design shown in the parts fiche. It has been redesigned to provide more ground clearance after discovering that the feet would be to close to the ground on full compression of the rear suspension. It is a very tight fit with the side stand. They do touch and some manipulation may be needed to work the side stand and center stand. With the limited amount of room available it is the best that I can do. The stand works really well and should be a welcome addition.No obstructions below the skid plate. The rear mounting holes for the skid plate will have to be enlarged to accept the center stand bolts. The bolts are 1/2" bolts that require a 3/4" or 19mm wrench to tighten. Hardware included. I recommend using loctite on the bolts as well.
Not all of the bikes have the factory mounted upper spring mount post. I make a stand for models that don't have the factory mount also. Please check to see how your bike is equiped and be sure to let me know.

XT225 Center Stand $169.00 + Shipping

2010-01-21T14:09:00.004-07:00

I was going to discontinue this stand but I have found out there is still interest in this model.

XR400 Center Stand $160 +Shipping

2010-01-20T23:25:00.009-07:00

Rizal's XR400 in Singapore

Gladly's XR400 in the Yukonkawamatt2 SM'd XR400
Custom heights are avaiable upon request and applies to all center stands provided by Cigar Mike's.

SM610 2006-2009 Center Stand-$85+S&H

2010-01-20T00:43:00.003-07:00

The bike shown has a lowering link. I will need to have customers get a dimension for me so that I can make it the correct height. At least until I have done a couple stands for stock suspensions.

Not all bikes have the factory upper spring mount post. Please check to see how your bike is equiped and let me know when you order. I do have stands for both.

XR650L in Utah

2010-01-05T22:04:00.003-07:00

sled rider's Center Stand

2010-01-04T22:14:00.003-07:00

XR650L Photos

2010-01-01T20:12:00.005-07:00

Patrick Trahan's 650 as prepared by Twisted Throttle for the Rides4AfricaWhishes.

Washington State

DevildogLt in Japan

Massimo's TAT bike. He is coming from Italy to make the ride this summer. Dual Sport Armory has set the bike up and is hold it until he arrives.

Rich's XR650L

Paul's XR600, EnglandDavid's
Ian's in South Africa Andrew in FloridaVegas HeatCrocket

prettypugsley

Barron

XR650L-A Happy Customer

2010-01-01T19:47:00.002-07:00

15 minutes and walla it's installed and what a nice quality piece of workmanship you have created!!! I love the way you have choosen to mount this centerstand...Folds up fantastic...Hardly extends below the bash plate (Maybe 1/4" if even that much!!!)

Outstand product!!!!!!

Installation 10

Workmanship 10

Shipping 10

Overall 10

Now I do not have to carry a scissors jack with me anymore. even out in the barren badlands of Colorado I can easily change a flat!!!!!! or anything else I do on the rear of the bike.

KUDOS!!!!!

prettypugsley

Bath, PA

TE 610 Husky Review

2010-01-01T19:40:00.001-07:00

Hi Mike,

Got the stand on and it works really well. I added two 9/16" washers (5/8 was a bit to big but 9/16 fit the space like a glove) to it. This moved it about as far right as it could go. I was hoping that by moving to the right side the stand would not hit on its way down but still rubs the center stand as it moves past it. Not a big deal, just something that I will get used to. I ended up removing about 1/4 inch from the rubber stopper. This allowed the stopper bolt to bottom out on its shank. I then moved the nut to the other side of the stop mount and put some lock tight on it. It was a bit tight to get a wrench on that side so I used pliers.

OK, so the good=

1) balance point is spot on

2)stand is very sturdy when in the up position

3)the stand is completely up and out of the way when retracted

4) easy to pull up (with rack on the back)

5) for the little bit of weight it adds it is a great improvement over just a side stand alone

And the small not so good

1) side stand rubs center stand on its way past

2) You cannot get at the foot pedal if you have your passenger pegs on. I was going to take mine off anyway so this just gave me another reason to get it done.

3) Rubber stopper does not look like it is going to last very long but we will see. Stand comes up really fast and hard. I have found a way to kinda get my foot in the way as it comes up just to keep it from hitting so hard on the stopper.

You have a great product here Mike. It is a snap to install once I had the secrets.

I will send you my Husky build pics later today.

More user input coming as I get it out there and abuse it.

Randy

As Randy describes the center stand and side stand will touch one another when putting down the side stand. And the way the side stand comes up against the center stand press down leg. You just about have to put the side stand down to deploy the center stand. the clearance needed to make sure the chain does not fub on the center stand while under acceleration requires the center stand be placed that far to the left. I have noticed that TEs that have been used alot the side stand becomes sloppy with use and the clearance problem becomes less of a problem as time goes on. On the bike I fit the prototype to they did not hit one another. But does happen on some of the TEs.

I will make an adjustment on the stopper so that the height adjustment for the retracted position will be easier to accomplish. I will also include better instructions for the stands installation so that there are no secrets.

The feedback I receive only helps me make the stands better and it is greatly appreciated. And I am more then happy to refund the money for any of the products I make if owners are not happy with the products.

Thanks to everyone that has purchased the stands and for their feed back. It has been more of a group design in perfecting these stands then anything else. Especially the first owners that received the unimproved design. Almost all of the problems have been solved by them and they deserve the credit for the good. I will take the blame for the bad.

One more thing. I will make custom heights at no extra charge. If you have lowered your bike. Please let me know. With your help I will be able to get a height more suited to your bike.

Cigar Mike

XT225 Photos

2010-01-01T14:22:00.004-07:00

Olaf's pair of XT's in BC

I wanted a center on our XT225 and XL650L because I bring these with me when we travel to do some riding. We like to mix offroad with on road riding when we travel and being able to switch from one set of wheels to another makes riding that much more fun.

it makes going from these...

to these much easier.

And then a picutre of why we change them. Got Dirt?

Slojoe has the first stand sent out for testing. He should get a lot of credit in the developement of the stand for the XT. He contributed many of he design features that made the finished product possible. He is a good man and friend.

Norvegicus in MN XT225 lrj's XT225 Clayjars' XT225

Lets Ride Photos

2009-12-31T15:00:00.004-07:00

Reservation Ridge/Strawberry Area, Utah

New Mexico

at the Rio Grande

A few rocks along the way

Slojoe our Ride Leader

Gemini Bridges Moab Utah

Bridal Vail Falls, Utah

Ubehebe Crater-Death Valley California

South Mineral Camp Ground, Colorado

Hwy 74 Above Lake Elsinore Ca.

San Bernadino Mountains

Pinnacles, California

Husky Monument

San Bernadino Mountains, California

Berdoo Canyon headed North to Joshua TreeNP

Salton Sea, California

North side of Joshua Tree NP

On way to Monument from Rampart Range Road

Rampart Range

South of Parker, Colorado

Central California Area

Cigar Mike

Moab

SkyLine Drive California
Death Valley

Titus Canyon, Death Valley

Silverton, Colorado

Skyline Drive, Utah

Alpine Loop, Utah

Skyline Drive, Utah

XR400 Photo's

2009-01-09T15:00:00.001-07:00

Amz's in Singapore

Gladly's in Yukon Teritories
Rizal's in Singapore
kawamatt2

XT225.com attacks private industry

2009-01-08T20:56:00.005-07:00

Has Scott (Muniac), the owner of XT225/XT250 targeted manufacturers of XT225 products that refuse to pay part of their profits to him? I am afraid the answer is yes. Below is his policy concerning those manufacturers that refuse to pay fees to him because they make products for the XTs.

“A rogue business is a "for profit" entity who engages in ongoing selling to XT225.com registered members or visitors excluding a paid ad for their business, services, products or other profitable activities. These rogue businesses continually rely on free product reviews, signature URLs and active posts to avoid spending any of their money on a commercial membership. Simply stated this is in direct violation of the board rules. These entities need to upgrade to a commercial membership immediately. Keep in mind that purchasing or reviewing products from rogue businesses doesn't support XT225.com. Reviewing rogue business products or using the board resources to promote them in any way is also in direct violation of the board rules. Businesses become rogue businesses by continually exploiting the XT225.com market directly or indirectly as non-commercial members. Admin will delete content or ban members who break the board rules. These "for profit" rogue businesses that sell here every month but don't advertise have decided the XT225 market has no value up and beyond their profitable product sales. In other words they want to keep all the marbles for themselves. The spirit of the XT225.com community is one of teamwork, help, sharing, giving and assistance. So taking money out of a market and leaving the infrastructure of that market to go founder for itself is a form of stealing. In an online forum such as this, policing these matters is difficult but not impossible. In a very large community you will always find a small collection of individual parties wishing to operate outside of good judgement. Exposing these individuals is the first step in remediation. Be aware that admin knows exactly what's going on and takes a dim view of rogue business activity. It's also important that everyone understands how this situation hurts the site in the form of lost revenue. If you have made or are considering a purchase from a rogue business remember these businesses DO NOT support XT225.com through paid ads. You might suggest to a rogue business that becoming a commercial member (meaning they help XT225.com through ad dollars) is required and a good idea as it helps keep the site free to its non-commercial members. The goal here isn't about being Lord of the Board but establishing a fair balance between those wishing to use the XT225.com market resources and providing some financial support in return. This approach positions niche products for maximum sales and helps keep XT225.com healthy. Keep in mind that XT225.com is also a business which needs to maintain an operating budget to survive. ISP, software updates, maintenance, admin resources and storage all cost money. If that money isn't there then the site goes away. Lost ad revenue hurts XT225.com and its members so we need to put a stop to it.”

Clarke Manufacturing is considered a “Rouge Manufacturer”. Many owners begged Clarke to make a larger tank for the XT for over four years. Clarke decided to make the tank and it has been well received. They make the only aftermarket tank for the XT. Scott suggests that Clarke is doing something wrong by providing a much needed product that helps all owners of the XT225.com by not paying him. I doubt that Clarke has suffered any loss of sales.

As an owner of an XT225 I had decided to fabricate a centerstand for the bike. It turned out that I was not the only one interested in a centerstand for this model. Many fellow owners requested that I make available the centerstand. Since I had retired and wanted something to do to keep busy I figured, why not. As a member of XT225.com I had asked permission to start a thread for the purpose of developing the stand for the members that were interested. It was completely within the rules at the time, but I asked anyway.

It was not long after I offered the centerstand for purchase that I was informed that I should take out ad space at XT225.com. I was informed of the rate required and I told Muniac that the amount of sales did not support the monthly ad rate. I volunteered to pay an amount for every stand sold, but that was not acceptable. I thought Muniac and I were friends but I was informed that it was strictly business. This response changed my attitude. I have been involved in running multi-million dollar construction projects as well as owning my own construction company. I am very familiar with "it is just business".

My daughter was a Marketing Manager for a major medical manufacturer and I asked for her to help me determine what I should spend on marketing the stands. After a review by her, I was told that the money is not well spent for the ad at XT225. Since I am the only one in the world that makes the products that I do. I was informed that from a monetary stand point that the company would receive more exposure through the search engines. I explained this to Muniac and asked if we could come to an agreement for a negotiated amount for limited exposure. This was also unacceptable. At that point I informed Muniac that from a business stand point I could not justify placing an ad with him at this time.

I have no problem with what Muniac decides to do with his Forum. But I am offended when he calls me a thief. I am offended when he accuses me of conspiring with others to post their satisfaction with the centerstand. Under the rules of the forum I was still allowed to be a member. I would get a lot of heat by others speaking well of the stand. Muniac then changed the rules which banned me from the site. I no longer could be anything but a commercial member. I know it was directed at me since he did not ban other members at that time, which provide products for the XT. It is clear to me that greed motivates Muniac and the delusion that XT225.com is responsible for the success of all products made for the XT225 and XT250. Muniac actually informed me that he had helped me with advice that helped me develop the stand. I did not have the heart at the time to tell him that this advice was of no value to me.

Due to very slow sales (in less than one year) of the XT stand I decided to stop making that model. And once I made the announcement I requested that I be reinstated. I never even got a response from Muniac. I am sure if I offered to take out an ad I would hear from him in minutes. As it turned out this was probably a good thing. No sooner than I announced the stand was to be discontinued I received several orders. I don’t enjoy making this one stand because it is difficult to make fit correctly. It did point out another thing out though. It clearly demonstrated to me that XT225.com has very little if anything to do with sales of this model.

My personal opinion of Muniac, after spending a week with him out riding and dealing with him in a business setting, is that he has delusions of grandeur. He cannot see the truth through his own ego and is not to be trusted. He is a person that is very easy to like if everything goes exactly the way he wants it to.

I wanted to get the truth out about Muniac (Scott) because I am tired of his attacks on honest hard working companies trying to provide what XT owners want.

A bit more information provided on 2/23.11. I just found out that TCI a very good company that provides great products for several models of motorcycles should be added to the rouge list. But for some reason has not. I must admit that it appears to be that these rules are directed at some manufacturers but not all. The administrator at XT225.com is taking a page from Obama. He apparently will provide exemptions for select friends. A thread was just deleted at XT225.com that brought this very issue to light. He claims he is not trying to be "Lord of the Board". I see it differently. Dishonest, may be a better description.

Cigar Mike

2005 XT225 Parts for sale-3305 miles

2009-01-08T20:15:00.002-07:00

Here are two pictures of the bike the parts came off of.

Front Wheel/including orginal tire $100
Rear Wheel/includinng orginal tire $150
Front Fender/Black $20
Gas Tank $100
Air Box $20
Battery Box $10
Mirrrors/Pair $10
Handle Bars $10
Forks $150
Swing arm $50
Footpegs and Brackets $25
Shift Lever and Linkage $25
Passenger Pegs $30
Brake caliper $75
Fork Boots $10
Tank Scoops/Pair $25
Rear Axle $20
Seat $75
Frame/with exchange of damaged frame $200

More parts will be added. This is not a complete list.